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The New Wineskins Association of Churches Leadership Team Response to the 218th General Assembly

The New Wineskins Association of Churches
Leadership Team Response to the 218th General Assembly

Theologically unhinged - The 218th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) has become theologically unhinged from our Biblical and Reformation foundation. The actions of this Assembly are schismatic. They foster division within our denomination and threaten the sundering of the denomination from the world Church of Jesus Christ.

Specifically,

• The Assembly recommends re-writing the historic Heidelberg Catechism by truncating a quotation from Scripture (1 Cor. 6:9) in order to remove reference to homosexual behavior as sinful.

• The Assembly has asked the church once again to overturn historic, Biblical standards of sexual holiness for those being ordained. Previous authoritative interpretations about sexuality and ordination standards have been rendered void. Presbyteries will be asked to delete the “fidelity in marriage, chastity in singleness” clause of G-6.0106b.

• The Assembly has authorized creating a special fund to battle in civil courts congregations which cannot in good conscience continue their voluntary affiliation with the PC(USA). Such legal actions include not only disputes over property but, as in the Londonderry case, litigation against individual elders. Donations will be sought. However, we are hopeful that the General Assembly’s strong approval of a resolution encouraging presbyteries to initiate and communicate a gracious process for dismissal will decrease a rush to civil court on all sides.

• The Assembly has misunderstood and disrespected all three religions in its resolutions about Judaism, Islam and Christianity. The Assembly calls upon adherents to these various faith systems to celebrate religious holidays together: as if a good Muslim could celebrate the incarnation of God in Jesus Christ at Christmas, as if a good Jew could look to the crucifixion on Good Friday for atonement, as if a good Christian could consecrate himself or herself during Ramadan to a Unitarian God who is not the gracious Father, Son, and Holy Spirit of the Triune God.

• Although, the Assembly declined asking the presbyteries of the PC(USA) to redefine marriage as between one man and one woman (Mt. 19: 4-5), a civil marriage between 2 men was performed by a PC(USA) minister at the More Light Presbyterians gathering at the General Assembly. Those charged with defending our constitution have remained silent on this breach of ordination vows.

We find these actions repugnant and call upon the denomination to reject them heartily.

Meanwhile, the New Wineskins Association of Churches continues to hold to a vision of a church grounded in:

• shared, clear essential theological tenets based on historic Biblical faith
• shared ethical imperatives derived from Scripture\
• relationships of mutual accountability and support
• a polity designed for missional service.

Come Talk to Us in Atlanta on August 6 & 7th!

We invite pastors and elders serving PCUSA congregations to participate in conversations and voice concerns raised by the 218th General Assembly and to hear afresh the New Wineskins’ vision for the church.

The NWAC leadership will host this meeting for pastors and elders who share our commitment to the New Wineskins’ Essentials of the Reformed Faith, and are grieved by the actions of the General Assembly. This meeting will begin at noon, on Wednesday August 6 and conclude at noon on Thursday, August 7. It will be held near the Atlanta airport with complimentary shuttle service. For more information and to register, please contact executive director Renee Guth at rguth@newwineskinsassociation.org. A free-will offering will be collected in lieu of a registration fee. There will be NO registrations at the door. We suggest no more than 3 representatives from any one congregation because space is limited.

At this meeting we seek to encourage those congregations feeling called to continue to bear witness within the PC(USA) to become resistive communities collaboratively living out a vision of shared tenets, ethics, and mission.

In addition, our fifth New Wineskins Association convocation will be held at First Baton Rouge Presbyterian Church on Sunday, November 9 to Tuesday, November 11th. Our convocation will further the New Wineskins Association’s missional vision for Presbyterians in the 21st century!

Come consider a better way. Join us in prayer, discussion and visioning.

Grace and Peace in Christ,

Leadership Team
New Wineskins Association of Churches
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31 Responses to “The New Wineskins Association of Churches Leadership Team Response to the 218th General Assembly”

  1. charles sinatra Says:

    thank you….may you help bring sanity back to our denomination

  2. John Erthein Says:

    I am not sure if I can make it because of the cost of airfare, but if I can, I would be interested in sharing a room with someone. What hotel will be used?

  3. John Erthein Says:

    Never mind … there is no way I can make it with our finances the way they are right now. Sorry to have to miss it.

  4. Paul M. League, QFP, CFP® Says:

    Thank you for standing firm and stating clearly the unacceptable nature of this matter. After nearly 30 years of debating these very matters the 218th GA of PCUSA has now forever compromised the standards of the presbytery. Those thinking they can stay and bring about a reversal of this by collaborative resistence will only partake in the sin…it’s well past the time to realign. Certainly, our Lord Jesus Christ does not lead in the direction of gay and lesbian “rights”, or heterosexual promiscuity, that go against righteous behavior, and believers should not follow such misdirection. Indeed, we are to love sinners but also while we continue to despise and reject sin. Allowing such sinners to become ordained or otherwise “sanctioned” leaders within our denomination is a misdirection from which we can never recover. God help us all.

  5. Renee Guth Says:

    Come Talk to Us in Atlanta, August 6th & 7th!

    New Wineskins Association of Churches

    Who: Pastors and elders serving PCUSA congregations who share our commitment to the Essential Tenets of our Reformed faith and are grieved by the recent actions of the 218th General Assembly

    What: Prayer, reflection, and discussion designed to explore options, especially those we can take together and with others

    When: From 12 p.m. on Wednesday, August 6 to 12 p.m. on Thursday, August 7

    Where: Crowne Plaza Hotel near the Atlanta Airport, 1325 Virginia Ave., Atlanta, GA, 30344. Call (866) 750-3365 to receive a “New Wineskins” rate of $139 double occupancy. Last day to make a reservation at this rate is Friday, July 25th. The Crowne Plaza Hotel is a non-smoking facility and requires a $50 refundable deposit at check-in for incidentals.

    How: Register by Tuesday, August 5th. To register, send your name(s), church, mailing address(es), and e-mail address(es) to Renee Guth at rguth@newwineskinsassociation.org. There will be no registrations at the door. A free-will offering will be collected in lieu of a registration fee.

  6. Dennis Stuessi Says:

    Pls advise as to the actual count of PCUSA churches comprising (1) the NWS Presbytery of the EPC; (2) the NWSAC; and (3) fully departed the PCUSA?

  7. Rebekah Maul Says:

    Why is so much of the conversation using reference to the PCUSA in the third person, as though we are already a divided church. I just don’t see reference to Jesus as Lord except in reference to “property” issues. The question isn’t WWJD… the question for the denomination is WWJHUD… What would Jesus have US do. I have a very difficult time seeing how pulling a congregation out of the PCUSA is building up the body of Christ… or that splitting congregations is something that Jesus would endorse. Division does not heal for either side. If we must play the role of judge on the PCUSA, we have to consider that, yes, we can love the sinner and yes, we can hate the sin. But isn’t it more accurate to say that Jesus teaches that we love the sinner… and hate our own sin??? Will division bring the nonbeliever to want to know Jesus?

  8. Renee Guth Says:

    Dear Rebekah Maul,

    Thanks for your good questions, especially, “Will division bring the nonbeliever to want to know Jesus?”

    In response to your observation that NWs is speaking of the PCUSA in the third person, the New Wineskins Assoc. is a trans denominational association,. Therefore, not all of our congregations are in the PCUSA.

    Grace & Peace,
    Renee

  9. Renee Guth Says:

    Dear Dennis,

    The NWAC currently has 180 + congregations. For the rest of the information, the best places to look are:

    http://pcusalist.blogspot.com

    http://www.layman.org/layman/Resources/churches-leaving-chart.htm

    http://www.epc.org/presbytery/new-wineskins–epc-transitional-presbytery

    Is this what you were looking for?

    Grace and Peace,
    Renee Guth

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  12. Phyllis Bowden Says:

    Jesus said that the wheat and the tares should grow up together until the last day. Calvin and Luther did not leave the Roman Catholic Church, they were forced out.

    The job for us is to repent that people in the church do not understand the underpinnings of the doctrine of marriage. We must now begin to be articulate and diligent students of God’s Word and show the world the purpose and intent of God when he gave Eve to Adam in the garden, and blessed the marriage in the town of Cana of Gallilee. I am thinking today how all my life the geneologies in the Bible were treated as chapters to skip. We should have been showing others that in these passages God was showing us how his salvation message and work was carried on by the work of reproduction and bringing up children in the faith. It was the mission of Israel to carry on God’s work by having children so that in time God could bless all nations through the descendent of Abraham. Even now, how much of God’s work is done by raising children in the Christian home, school and church. Perhaps we have forgotten the sacrament of marriage, that we show the world through Christian marriage the love that God has for his chosen bride. You carry it on from there.

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